Firstly my heart goes out to all who have lost their little ones due to no fault of their own,I send you my strength to help you to get through the nightmare you live. I am a grandparent whose brain is in complete turmoil, I cannot seem to break down the events that have unfolded. Nine years ago this nightmare started for my daughter inlaw when her mother started making notifications to Fsa when her first baby was only 7 months old, these notifications came thick and fast about her own daughters abilities as a parent, when the second baby was born the notifications by the maternal grandmother increase ten fold until the little ones were removed from my daughter inlaw care and into the cre of the grandmother. As usual, nothing was investigated or proven to be correct in relation to the notifications . My daughter inlaw was in a hostile relationship and wanted to get out, she asked for help from her parents in doing this prior to the removal, as requested her parents went to "help" by taking the kids for a few daysto make it easier for her to leave. 18 months later, my daughter inlaw finally got them back, her parents used everything plus lies to get temporary custody. After reunification, the calls to FSA started again. By this stage she had met my son and. Became pregnant, things got even more horrible, they didn't like my son so the calls to FSA became about him , my daughter in-laws sister is a detective here in S.A, she did illegal background checks and found that my son had been charged and con cited of assault when he was 17. This then provided them a base for more and more lies until the children were once again put bck in the cre of the maternal grandparents, the baby was 5 months old. Their "big break" came when after child care on day my daughter inlw noticed that the baby would not bare weight on his left leg, he didn't appear to be overly distressed but it was clear there was discomfort, they took him to the hospital to have him checked that same evening, xrays were taken and the doctors concluded that it as merely pain associated with growing and possibly a slight strain. Satisfied they returned home. The following day they received a call from the hospital asking them to come back, they did so immediately. They were then told they had wrongly assessed the baby and infact he fractures in both legs consistentwith a twisting injury. They were asked to explain how this happened, the only thing they could think was maybe at childcare the day before something may have happened accidently. This was not a satisfactory answer, fsa were called and they seperated my son and daughter inlaw from all three children for a "chat", my daughter inlaw, having read the signs said, no, u will take my kids, they promised that they only wanted to talk and its best done away from the kids, WRONG, two more workers came and took the kids, screaming out for mum. Since then, now 2years ago, they have not got them back, they had another baby just over 12mths ago, tea took him out of her cre when he was 12hours old. They have been fighting her parents in court and fsa. FSA have deemed my son as having borderline personality disorder and they have been told that if they stay together she will never get the kids back because they conclude that my son hurt the baby because of the assault charge when he was 17. No investigation has been done into the childcare centre, no actual facts are looked at, a police check nor a psychological report has mot even been conducted for the maternal grandparents. They have given false statements, placed drug paraphernalia and taken photographs, the list goes on. I know in my heart of beets that neither my son nor daughter inlaw hurt my grandson, I would be the first to do something about it if they had, I will admit they both need guidance and to be taught some life skills ie: budgeting, organisational skills and they did argue a fair bit, and they got worse as the pressure from her parents and fsa and being told that they were no good and my son told on many occasions that he was nothing but a looser, but this does not warrant having the children taken and molding those precious days, weeks months now years. The kids were always clean and fed, had the best of everything, (which was one of the issues with budgeting), because the over shopping and gifts to the kids made them run short for rent and bills. This were their only "crimes". I helped as much as possible and explained the importance of not arguing with the children around, and basically offered support no matter what. Now still fighting her parents and FSA, the mention of an 18 year order for the baby is lurking. We need help someone please, I'm even refused visits to my grandbabies, I watched them come into the world, I ove them so deeply and cannot see them, I have only seen my youngest grandbaby at his birth and one other time in 13 months, I can only imagine the pain of my son and daughter inlaw as mine is almost to hard to bare.

Note: From my research I believe that David Bottrill is part of a devil worshipping group. The "O.T.O" was founded by Aleister Crowley known as the wickedest man in the world. No wonder this low life does not want anyone to know about the O.T.O. David Bottril is not just a part of the OTO, he is the national treasurer which leads one to wonder how sinister this man really is.

I would hope the federal police follow this man each halloween to ensure he is not sacrificing babies. What sort of man devotes himself to protecting the order of a paedophile satanist??? David Bottrill.

Photo courtesty of ACT & Region Chamber of Commerce

http://actchamber.com.au/who%27s-who-pg-39.html

Industry Outreach Officer
ACT & Region Chamber of Commerce & Industry
(Department of Immigration and Citizenship)
Direct Phone: (02) 6283 5250
Fax: (02) 6282 2436
Mobile: 0434 078 554
david.bottrill@actchamber.com.au

David assists Chamber members with visa and immigration issues.

So now you are stalking me on facebook David Bottrill???

Aleister Crowley Documentary MUST SEE!!-The Wickedest Man In the World Documentary

Aleister Crowley the satanist on Wikipedia

From Wikipedia...
Moving to the commune with Hirsig, Shumway, and their children Hansi, Howard, and Poupée, Crowley described the scenario as "perfectly happy ... my idea of heaven." They wore robes, and performed rituals to the sun god Ra at set times during the day, also occasionally performing the Gnostic Mass; the rest of the day they were left to follow their own interests. Undertaking widespread correspondences, Crowley continued to paint, wrote a commentary on The Book of the Law, and revised the third part of Book 4. He offered a libertine education for the children, allowing them to play all day and witness acts of sex magic. He occasionally travelled to Palermo to visit rent boys and buy supplies, including drugs; his heroin addiction came to dominate his life, and cocaine began to erode his nasal cavity. There was no cleaning rota, and wild dogs and cats wandered throughout the building, which soon became unsanitary.

David Bottrill

1 Karney Street Kambah ACT 2902

david.bottrill@hotmail.com

 Another threat of legal action from David Bottrill National Treasurer of OTO in Australia

Michael Borusiewicz

Dear Mr Borusiewicz

Concerns Notice pursuant to the Civil Law (Wrongs) Act 2002 (ACT)and Defamation Act 2005 (QLD)

I refer to the page on your website lukesarmy.com at

Paedophile rings protected by police and politicians in Australia

http://wwwlukesarmy.com/content/paedophile-rings-protected-police-and-po...

This provides the text of a document authored by Ms Reina Michaelson which purports to describe events in Victoria, including a conspiracy involving high profile Australian citizens, a major television network, police and authorities and the education department in a criminal network which commits cannibalism, murder and paedophilia and/or the organised ritual sexual abuse of children.  There are references in the document to the Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO) and the document purports a link between the OTO and these criminal activities.

These accusations defame the OTO and its members.  Legal action was previously initiated against the author and a publisher of this document.  As the then National Treasurer of the OTO I was a lead party in all proceedings.  Despite being given a legal venue in which to do so Ms Michaelson did not produce any evidence to support her claims.

Your posting of this document repeats the defamation of the OTO, its members and me.

I refer you to the Civil Law (Wrongs) Act 2002 (section 127) and demand that you:

a) immediately remove the document and any references to it from your website,

b) place a comment on your site in its place advising you regret providing a link to a document that contains defamatory material, admitting you have no firsthand knowledge or evidence to support any of the claims made in it, and apologise for any hurt or distress caused by your actions,

c) provide a signed written apology (as above) for the hurt and harm caused by your publication of this material which includes an undertaking to refrain from further postings of this document and desist from further defamation of the OTO and its members including myself to me .

d) provide a written apology (as above) to the OTO (care of myself).

e) advise who provided the original document to you and when this occurred

f) advise if you have authority from Ms Michaelson to publish this document

g) advise if Ms Michaelson is aware of your publication of his document

h) advise how many person have viewed this page

I) advise if you have authorised the reproduction and distribution of this document and if so provide details as to when, how and to whom you provided the materials (names, addresses emails etc)

j) make an appropriate offer of amends reflecting the hurt and harm you have caused.

In making your offer of amends you should consider what it feels like to be falsely accused, on a public forum, by someone you have never met, of being a member of an organised paedophile ring.

For the avoidance of doubt, this letter is to be construed as a “Concerns Notice” pursuant the Civil Law (Wrongs) Act 2002 and the Defamation Act 2005 (in QLD) and its counterparts in other states and territories and this letter is not for publication.

Removal of the Michaelson document should occur immediately.

Within 24 hours of the date of sending of this email and I require a response (send to david.bottrill@hotmail.com) setting out what steps have and will be taken to comply with the other demands above.  Compliance with all other requirements should occur within 28 days.

If you fail to meet any of these deadlines, fail to provide a satisfactory response or publish further false and defamatory material regarding myself, the OTO and its members I reserve all rights including commencing proceedings for defamation against you.

I shall rely on this letter on the matter of damages and may seek exemplary damages and indemnity costs reflective of the length of time this material is online.

You may be hearing separately from others affected by your actions in due course
 
David Bottrill

Michael Borusiewicz michael@lukesarmy.com

22:28 (18 hours ago)

to david.bottrill

Can you show me the section of text you are referring to on the site? That is the largest link on the site so you will have to narrow it down for me. I am not responsible for all of the material posted on the site or that particular page as people are able to register and post their own content on the site. Therefore I am unable to say for certain who posted each separate comment on the site.

http://www.lukesarmy.com/content/child-abuse-and-media-australia

http://www.lukesarmy.com/content/laws-regarding-qualified-privelidge-web...

I look forward to reaching a satisfactory conlusion to this problem for everyone,

Kind Regards,
Michael.

David Bottrill

05:54 (10 hours ago)

to Michael

Dear Mr Borusiewicz

The entire article authored by Reina Michaaelson should be removed as well as the text where, in the Comments section, you have posted (on Mon, 04/29/2013 - 17:02 — Lukes Dad) hyperlinks to federaljack.com/ebooks/ / Dr Reina Michaelson - Declarepeace.org.uk / http://webcache and below that make a further reference to the Order in the section entitled “A teacher called 'Dick Newman' came under suspicion”.

Michael Borusiewicz michael@lukesarmy.com

07:21 (9 hours ago)

To David

So you believe the things which Reina Michaelson has exposed should be covered up. Are you some sort of paedophile too? What sort of sick person tries to stand over people to cover up for paedophiles? You are welcome to post a comment on the site to state your view, which is all that Reina has done as far as I can see.
 

Recently the question was asked in the Luke's Army group on facebook, "How do I apply for a section 90, what fo I need to do?"

People quite often wish to apply for a section 90 but are daunted by the thought of entering into legal proceedings unassisted. The following advice regarding applying for a section 90 was provided by some of the members of Luke's Army.....

Aron Mcmaster: Workers from FACS NSW will say you can't do a section 90 and will try throw u off ..but a section 90 is not up to FACS NSW workers, rather u apply to the court for restoration. It's up to the court to except it, and up to legal aid if u get a legal aid grant or not...you can you can apply for a section 90 directly to the court...but what is required for the section 90 to be considered or granted is....

Requires significant change..witch means your life has changed in a big way to/from final orders.....
Some ideas for significant change are
..change of address
..completed parenting courses
..a relationship change
..the people who you may rent with
........even small things like.
.. caught up on outstanding bills
..required a licence
..have new referances..
......but above all .a stable place to take child home to...

Dont just put one change on your application for a section 90 ..put as many changes as u can think of....no matter how big or how small..it will all count...
   If possible, contact a solicitor they will make a court date.

The following information regarding section 90 applications comes directly from the FACS NSW website and as expected, is not intended to help parents applying for a section 90...

section 90 applications

Agencies with case management responsibility for a child or young person will, in some cases over time, consider it appropriate to seek to vary or rescind a care order of the Children’s Court.

An application to do this may only be made with leave of the Children’s Court and if it appears there were significant changes in circumstances since the care order was made or last varied. This is known as a "section 90 application".

An application may be made by:

• Director General
• child or young person
• person with parental responsibility for the child or young person
• person from whom parental responsibility for the child or young person has been removed
• any person who considers themselves to have a sufficient interest in the child’s welfare.

If an agency identifies a section 90 application should be made, the Community Services CFRU (Child & Family Regional Unit) should first be consulted.

Whether an application is initiated by the Director General or another party, the organisation with case management responsibility will need to give evidence to the Court by affidavits with supporting evidence and possibly attend court as a witness.

Tips for completing Section 90 applications For FACS NSW Case Workers

Points to consider for inclusion

Format

Standard beginning of your affidavit:

“All conversations referred to in this affidavit are true and correct to the
best of my knowledge.”

“Information contained in this affidavit is derived from my knowledge as
the caseworker and also from (insert agency) paper and computer
records which I have access to.”

“Since (insert date) I have had and continue to have the day to day
responsibility for the casework in relation to (insert child or young
person’s name) born (insert DOB).”

Make the form and affidavit relevant to the orders you are seeking to vary or rescind; and relevant to the number of children - if there is one child the form should read ‘child’ not ‘children or young person’.

Introduction

»
Is the application to rescind or vary
the order? To rescind an order is to
remove it in whole, and make completely new orders or revert back to the
parents at common law. To vary the order means to alter the current order(s)
in some respect.
»
Remember Community Services is the model litigant and needs provide the
Court with the full circumstances of the case
»
Introduce the mother and father eg Ms
Sally Smith (Ms Smith) and Mr Bill
Smith (Mr Smith)
»
Refer to the parents as Ms (Surname) and Mr (Surname)
»
Introduce siblings (refer to them by
their first names). Jack Smith (Jack)
»
Refer to others by their first name
to avoid any confusion eg: Ms Clancy
Nguyen (Clancy) is the maternal grandmother
»
Introduce other significant people mentioned in the affidavit
»
Use a table where there are numerous family members
»
Attach a Genogram where possible
Brief history of the matter
»
State when the child was removed / assumed and from whose care
»
State the reasons behind why the child was removed / assumed

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Practice tool: Tips for completing s.90 applications
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Current Children’s Court orders
»
State what the final orders are
»
Annex a copy of the final orders to the affidavit and also the application
»
Annex a copy of the care plan only where a restoration has been unsuccessful
Current placement
»
Where is the child placed?
»
How long has the child been with the carer?
Significant change in relevant circumstances
»
Why is the application needed - state the significant change
»
If minimum outcomes have not been met, state which ones have not been
met (do not write them all out).
Evidence of significant change of relevant circumstances
»
What is the significant change in relevant circumstances?
»
Was there a critical incident?
»
State the evidence you have gathered to support the above points
»
Use direct speech
»
State dates and times of home visits
»
State any risk of harm reports since the date of final
orders if any- (this could have its own heading if lengthy)
»
State if there has been any updating material obtained through exchanging
information
Child or young person’s views
»
This section is included only where a child is under 12 years and has
expressed clear and strong views, as a child over 12 years is legally
represented
»
The date, time and place you spoke with the child
»
Use “I said” “He Said”
Casework since final orders
»
This information could mirror prior alternative action- what services are / were
involved; for what reason(s);
and for what length of time?
Plans for child or young person
»
What are your recommendations?
»
Where do we intend to place the child
»
Is there family we have assessed or are intending to assess?

Hi I am having trouble obtaining a copy of my children's case notes. I am worried I'm out of time with tnow feel mree working days left until court. What a mess I'm in, I've stumbled across your amazing, informative and inciteful website with such little time left. I felt so alone and unheard with my unlawful and inhumane removal of two out of my five children. Yet I now feel more empowered and strangely supported by this site.

Thank you for your time and effort. I am sorry that your loss is my saviour....

Yours in Toxicity Donna

Beautiful baby Alexandria Hill was removed from her parent’s custody because they naively admitted to Child Protective Services that they sometimes used marijuana at night, after Alex was asleep, to help them rest as well. Child Protective Services in Texas apparently felt that minor marijuana use was neglectful supervision, so she was removed from the custody of her devoted, loving parents and placed in foster care.

In Loving Memory of Alexandria Hill Who Died While in Foster Care Aged 2 Years Old

She was abused and neglected in her first foster home placement, showing up to visitation with bruises on her body and mildew in her bags. After multiple complaints from her parents, CPS sent little Alex to a second foster home where she was eventually murdered by her foster mother.

Oregon Department of Human Services took twins testing positive for marijuana at birth

According to the foster mother’s version of events, she accidentally slammed the child down onto the floor. She described raising Alex over her head three times and dropping her toward the floor as an act of frustration with the child, who she claimed slipped from her grasp the last time and slammed into a floor which was essentially concrete. Alex died in a Texas hospital several days later on July 31st, 2013, when she was taken off of life support.

Babies taken away because of medical marijuana use by parents

This week, Alex received justice when a jury found her foster mother Sherill Small guilty of captial murder, which carried an automatic sentenced of life in prison without the possibility of parole, as the prosecutor was not seeking the death penalty.

Moms for Marijuana: Time to End the War on Families

Tomorrow, November 7th 2014, would have been Alex’s fourth birthday. Instead of a party, full of laughter and sweet memories, her family has the cold comfort of justice. Alex may be gone, but her killer will spend the rest of her days incarcerated. Although Alex’s light was snuffed out far too early, this beautiful angel will never be forgotten. The life, death, and memories of Alex Hill will long be inspiring activists to help reform the broken child protection laws and programs in this country.

Lilly Fisher Removed by Spokane CPS Because Father Prescribed Marijuana

Maggie Volpo

ladybud.com

Hello everyone. Recently, about 2 months ago my 14 year old niece committed suicide by hanging while in foster care. She had been in care long term with my sister having scheduled visits. She wanted to move in with her mother and was due to have a school holiday with her. As you can imagine her mother is inconsolable. My gripe with Facs NSW is that my sister heard of her daughters death via Facebook. She was never contacted by anyone except to receive a sympathy card. The funeral was held in Sydney to satisfy foster parents. She wanted her to be buried close to her. Sydney is 1000 klms away. There are many unanswered questions and no one wants to communicate with her. She had been missing for 3 days before she was found in a barn which was on the property at which she lived. I find the whole thing incomprehensible as she supposedly had case workers, pschycologists, counselers etc. I just smell a rat but I don't know where to start. The foster father was in his sixties and a house husband. Things don't sit well with me but Facs won't discuss it...nor will the agency who found the foster parents. I am disgusted.

One has to wonder if Hugh Jackman hit the steroids and can't have kids, or more than likely Deborra-Lee Furness is too old to have kids so they campaign to bring in forced adoption to steal kids from parents who "are not so fortunate. Forced adoption has left a trail of destruction world wide.

Hugh Jackman's actress wife Deborra-Lee Furness' campaign to overhaul adoption laws in her native Australia will expose some children to a greater risk of abuse and trafficking, according to experts.

The Jindabyne star has been a vocal supporter of the Adopt Change organisation, and this week she praised the country's Prime Minister Tony Abbott for holding talks with campaign staff.

However, a group of child protection experts has now warned politicians that a change in the adoption laws could leave the door wide open to abusers.

The panel told an Australian parliamentary committee the proposals will make the adoption process"vulnerable to reduced standards for the protection of children, and greater risks of malpractice".

Wendy Harmer. Still employed by families s.a,

Not sure where other than Adelaide. Thanks Wendy for sticking me in a house on my own at 15, thanks for ignoring my pain and pleas that I didn't like living alone. Thanks for blaming me for the older men ( a quick note for you Wendy, 17 was and still is legal age of consent in s.a ) Thanks for again blaming me for having no family/friends. Thanks as well for making have so little of the basics required to live in a house. I'm still trying to understand why things like fridge, table, chairs, even just a stereo I wasn't worthy? Most of all thanks for the memories. Apparently they never go, I just have to learn to live with them. If any one has the mis fortune of coming across Wendy harmer in Adelaide s.a, try to ask for another worker. Especially if you are a guardianship of the minister child till 18, and have no family.

WATCH ABOVE: It can be very challenging for families to get out of the cycle of protective care in Montreal. Anne Leclair speaks with a mother who says she has really worked hard to be a good parent and believes Batshaw is prejudiced against families in the system.

MONTREAL – A 20-year-old mother of two will never forget the day her first-born daughter was taken away by youth protection in May of 2012.

“That was one of the worst days of my life when I lost her. Everything fell apart, and it’s been a fight ever since to get her back,” said the young mother who Global News can’t identity to protect the child’s identity.

The four-year-old girl was first placed in foster care over allegations of neglect and physical abuse between her biological parents. Her mother has been fighting to get custody for more than two years, and insists she’s done everything her social workers have requested.

“I did therapy. They said anger management, I did anger management with the therapy,” said the mother, “It’s false hope all the time, do this and then we’ll send her back and then, nothing!”

The child’s maternal grandmother has also attempted to get custody, but says she was denied due to her history with youth protection.

“I was also a DYP child, well what was called Ville Marie at the time. Because my children were in the DYP system they refused me to have my granddaughter.”

The mother says her weekly visits with her daughter have recently been reduced over allegations that the four-year-old was sexually assaulted by both her mother and her new 19 year-old boyfriend.

“To be accused, I’m her mother — that’s the last thing I would do to my daughter!”

Both the mother and boyfriend blame the social worker for what they call false accusations.

“I think he’s just stupid because he has no proof on it he’s just putting this stuff in her head,” said the 19-year-old, who is now no longer allowed to even see the four-year-old. The mother is hoping to increase her visitation rights but doubts she’ll get her daughter back anytime soon.

“There’s so many times I want to cry with her and I know I have to hold back the tears and tell her, ‘it’s ok, I’ll see you again in a few days or in a week at the next visit,’” she said.

Batshaw Youth and Family Centres has refused Global News’ request for an interview on this case. But we are told there is a specific process in place to investigate sexual and physical abuse allegations. The little girl’s family adamantly denies there was ever any sexual abuse.

“I think it’s all just pathetic, they’re looking for any way to try to keep my daughter in foster care,” her mother said.

The director of Head and Hands in NDG believes young parents are often victims of discrimination.

“We see a lot of cases like this,” said Jon McPhedran Waitzer. “Young parents by and large are labelled by pretty much everyone in their lives. And unfortunately sometimes the most so by the institutions that are there to support them as people who have made bad decisions and who are [going to] continue making bad decisions.”

There’s a new child in the picture since September. The young mother in question just gave birth to a second baby girl. But her family is still far from complete. She dreams of the day when she’ll have both her daughters at home.

“I just want youth protection to know that no matter how hard they try it’s not gonna work,” she said, “I’m never gonna give up on my daughter as long as it takes, she will come home!”

By Anne Leclair

globalnews.ca

Please contact me shazcam@yahoo.com.ay or 0422201090

The militant homosexual lobby insists that they are always victims of society and denies that homosexuality is connected with pedophilia and exploitation of children.
 

Corey Feldman, a Hollywood actor who starred in feature films in the 1980s, has written an honest, frank book describing how he and his fellow teen actors were molested and initiated into a life of vice and drug-abuse while working in “gay” Hollywood pedophile sex ring. The book, called “Coreyography: A Memoir” relates how Feldman worked with Corey Haim, another teen star, and the good-looking pair were targetted by queer predators all the time they were involved in film-making.

Haim first revealed the abuse he’d suffered to Feldman when the two shot the 1986 comedy Lucas, Feldman said in the book. He said that on the set of the film, Haim told him “an adult male convinced him that it was perfectly normal for older men and younger boys in the business to have sexual relations, that it was what all the guys do.

“So they walked off to a secluded area between two trailers … and Haim allowed himself to be sodomized.”
An innocent and naive Haim then propositioned Feldman, but nothing ever happened, the actor said, as he informed his new friend that such behavior was “not what kids do, man.”

In another instance, Feldman discusses the sexual predators in his own life, including a man identified as “Ron” who his father had hired for him as an assistant.
Ron often drugged the young actor, then performed sexual acts on the “petrified” and “revolted” youth, Feldman said, adding that “over a period of many years, I would begin to realize that many of the people I had surrounded myself with were monsters.”

Haim tragically died in March 2010 at 38 of an accidental drug overdose at an Oakwood apartment complex in Burbank, Calif.
Feldman advises prospective stage parents to think twice before launching their children into show business.
“People always ask me about life after childhood stardom. What would I say to parents of children in the industry? My only advice, honestly, is to get these kids out of Hollywood and let them lead normal lives,” Feldman wrote.
One of Feldman’s greatest confidantes in that time was Michael Jackson, who Feldman said never attempted anything inappropriate him him.

“Michael Jackson’s world, crazy as it sounds, had become my happy place,” he said. “Being with Michael brought me back to my innocence. When I was with Michael, it was like being 10 years old again.”

Elsewhere in the memoir, Feldman details the horrific abuse he suffered at the hands of his mother Sheila, a one-time Playboy Playmate. A drug-addict she wanted the money that her son could earn regardless of what it involved, and got violent when he tried to rebel.
Coreyography: A Memoir hits stores next week.

MORE ON THIS STORY:
Corey Feldman: ‘I’ll Name Men Who Abused Me As Kid Actor’

Another horrifying story of homosexual abuse of teenage boys

Found online at victimsofgaybullying.wordpress.com

Hi all thankyou for accepting me, I'd like to share my story.

My daughter R, was removed from her father by bowral docs amanda ramsay and Julie freckelton, they were right to remove her from that situation, tho, i had offered beforehand that i would remove R from him myself, they told me that they didn't believe R was in a situation to be removed and they thought she was fine being there. Days later they had her.

Before that, Her father done the run with her and moved to another township and called the police on me everytime i tried to reclaim my daughter. When they had R, they refused to acknowledge me refused to consider placement with me, at this time they had no grounds to refuse, i had my other 4 boys in my care. Amanda often abused me verbally and called me names and continuously told me that i had no chance. I am not known to docs at all on their system, now only as R's biological mother.

They pushed through the courts quickly and my barrister never said a word at any proceedings in my defense. He just sat by and watched them steal my girl away, when i confronted him, he said that he was waiting so we could collect all evidence we needed, on the final court day he had nothing, had never taken down any troubles i had with amanda or Julie, as in they were cancelling visits then rescheduling them back to original dates without letting me know.

One of the visits they rescheduled i did not show, this happened to be the visit right before the contact visit when the assesser was present, R was distressed as they told her that i deliberately had let her down and not cared enough for her to show, in turn on this next contact visit with assesser present, R was angry with me, assessers first point on his notes was that it seemed there was no signs of a bond between myself and my girl, that she was avoidant and uncomfortable in my presence. Rescheduled contact visits were common. And they made my contact visits for 3.30pm every visit, knowing full well i had another 4 boys at school and no partner and no family local to help. Which resulted in ongoing late arrivals for contact.

Throughout reports they claimed no bond and that i was aggressive, i was often pulled out of the room away from my daughter to be told that i was selfish and damaging R's emotional and psychological wellbeing. It was R that was asking me the questions, mummy when can you take me home, to which i answered, darling please just hang in there mummy is doing her best, to this i was yelled at by Julie, pulled from the room and chastised, this was a regular thing, a simple question like what sport do you like was a reason for them to yell at me and remove me from the room.

After a while me and my girl couldn't talk about anything, she stopped talking to me and the cuddles etc stopped aswell, she told me she didnt want me to get into trouble, to which the contact supervisor at the time said awww, isnt that cute! R was moved from carer to carer as R showed distress wanting to be with her mum, i was told this personally by one of the careers, when they reported R's distress they took her from that carer and moved her onto another, this reoccurred until my girl finally realised what they were doing.

After 3 yrs, i finally found a lawyer that wanted to look at my case, finally one that didnt wave me off, docs pushed through instantly that R be managed in future with barnardos in orange, people if you thought docs were bad, you have not dealt with barnardos lol, they were making meeting times for me and them to discuss things, at these meeting they lied in front of each other giggling as they done so, and when i started to become distressed, the manager leaned very close to me and said quite loudly that my daughter didnt care about me, she doesn't love me, she never is interested in seeing me, this was repeated 5 times during this meeting.

While smiling the whole time, barnardos are much more evil, to this day my daughter is still there as the previous lawyer shied away from the case. But now, i have another lawyer, its only a few weeks in, but i hope i can get my girl home, it's been 6yrs since she has been taken, and family here at home has all but fallen apart over this situation. Thanks for listening to me xD

Wendy Harmer. Still employed by families s.a,

Not sure where other than Adelaide. Thanks Wendy for sticking me in a house on my own at 15, thanks for ignoring my pain and pleas that I didn't like living alone. Thanks for blaming me for the older men ( a quick note for you Wendy, 17 was and still is legal age of consent in s.a ) Thanks for again blaming me for having no family/friends. Thanks as well for making have so little of the basics required to live in a house. I'm still trying to understand why things like fridge, table, chairs, even just a stereo I wasn't worthy? Most of all thanks for the memories. Apparently they never go, I just have to learn to live with them. If any one has the mis fortune of coming across Wendy harmer in Adelaide s.a, try to ask for another worker. Especially if you are a guardianship of the minister child till 18, and have no family.

They always tell me "You are a danger to your child". I have never harmed a child but They found illegal images on my PC. What are my rights? What can I do and can they just devide our family because they 'think' ?

Help is needed, my daughter suffers badly.

Thank you From Queensland Australia

Where can I find their rules/regulations they have to go by in QLD?

Sad to say that my other entry did not get ny replies.

John

by Dana Glenn

Hi Guys,

I am wanting to talk about First Contact with Child Safety, I am going to show you what is exactly is and give relevant information on this particular topic. Keep in mind the information can vary from different states. I am going by QLD cause that's my state.

Part One:- 

So your at home minding your own business, playing with your kids etc or cleaning and within seconds your world turns upside down. There is a knock on your door, BANG!!!. There is child safety at your door. The reasons for this are because:-

1. A ‘notification’ (or report) has been made to the Department.
2. If a child has been harmed, is suffering harm or the family is
unable to provide protection for the child then Child Safety
Services will investigate and may apply for a court order.

Before you allow them in your house, you ask the following question:-

Do You Have A Court Order?

If They Say No:-

If they say No you do not have to let them in your home, Remember parents have rights to, You do not have to speak to docs. Keep in mind if you do refuse to speak to them, they can use it against you in court and get court orders and come back with the police. If you allow them in your home without a court order , then remember you do not have to allow them to go anywhere you don't want them to go. If they say they want to view your kids rooms or food etc you can refuse. The big key is they will do anything to bully you to get their own way. You can ask them to leave your property at anytime.

If The Answer Is Yes:-

More than likely if they say yes they have a court order then they are going to have the police with them, they have every right then to enter your home. This court order i think is called:- Temporary Assessment Order. Be careful about how you act or what you say as everything will be used against you in court. The big thing is to stay calm for your kids as best you can, as if you are getting mad and start becoming aggressive then it's not fair for your kids to see you like that, if you're kids or Child Safety see this type of behaviour then it will be used against you in Court. 

There is some things to keep in mind:-

1:- Ask for the departments contact details, write down names of the investigators, Team Leaders and anyone else that is involved with them.

2:- If your children are being removed from your care, ask for all copies of the court orders and other other paperwork as this will assist your legal team etc.

3:- If Child Safety asks you to consent to something or sign legally, you do not have to do this straight away. Inform them that you want to get legal advice before consenting to anything, they are not allowed to deny that request. Whatever you do, never sign away your parental consent, if you do that its a lot harder to gain your children back. Don't allow them to bully you.

4:- Buy a diary, keep all your documents with you and everything that happens with the department document it regardless.

5:- Listen to all their complaints, you can choose to answer them or refuse but keep in mind it will be used against you or twisted to suit them. My best advice that I can suggest is record everything on a security camera or on your phone to protect yourself. REMEMBER STAY CALM.

6:- They will want to look around your home, Now if there is no court order you can refuse, I have done this to. If they have a court order then i don't know if you can refuse them.

7:- If they are going to go to court, then go do not allow them to do this without you, depending on if you choose to represent yourself I would still suggest doing your research and still get legal advice.

8:- Child Safety are able to have contact with the staff at your child's education setting such as kindy or school. As far as I am aware they do have to inform you as a parent that they have made contact and and why.

9:- The department has your children in care or if they are on Protective Supervise Orders, they can find out that you're pregnant and investigate further if needed such as with doctors. They do not need your consent to talk to doctors etc. I don't know to much about this but i have been told they can take guardianship of a baby as soon as it's born if they are that worried.

10:- The Investigators can speak to your children about you in your presence at your house or ask you to bring them to the department to be interviewed. I have this both of these happen. If they speak to your child at your house then you will be asked to stay quiet and not say anything. If you are asked to bring your child to the department well that generally means they are more concerned about your parenting. The department will take your child into room, you will be asked to wait outside. Yes they can talk to your kids alone. They will have two officers with your child, one will be asking the questions while the other one can be recording etc. Be smart if you know this is going to happen you can ask for your lawyer to go in with your child, they can not stop that one. The lawyer will be an third person in the room who will also document what is being said. The lawyer can also stop the interview should the wrong thing happen by docs.

After the investigation side is done, they will sit down and inform you how this is going to go. They will either allow you to work with them voluntary or inform you they are going to court. Be prepared for this one as if you have an intellectual impairment, depression or special needs kids you will end up in court on a protective supervise order.

Part Two:- 

In this section I would like to explain to families what happens if Child Safety take their investigation to the next level, I have been to this step twice in the last 7 years. It can be a very traumatic experience for the adults and for the children. I really hope that by reading this can assist you when you are dealing with the department of child safety, I can only share my research and my experiences with you as I am not a lawyer so if in doubt please seek legal advice, ask me or any admin or member of Luke's Army.

Child Safety Services may elect to work with you without taking courtaction. A Care Agreement is a short term agreement between the Departmentand a parent/s whereby the child is placed in temporary care under thedirection of Child Safety Services.

You can choose to agree to this, however, under this agreementChild Safety may: 

A:- The Department needs to link you in with support services such as HOF or other government agencies.

B:- Organise A Care Agreement.

C:- If your child is old enough and are able to communicate the investigators will also interview your child to see how they like living with you etc,this is easy for the department to take control of and twist to their own words. 

D:- Make all day to day decisions about the child – including where they live.

There are two types of Care Agreements that can be used:-

A:-Assessment Care Agreement

B:- Child Protection Care Agreement

Guys, please be very careful regarding dealing with department as they can trick you into certain things they want so carefully look over the documents and make sure this is something you want to agree to. 

All Care Agreements MUST: 

A:- Be in writing.

B:- Document HOW LONG it is for.

C:- State where the child will reside (name, address & contact no)

D:-State the Contact Arrangments with your client and other family members. 

E:- Document the type of decisions about the child you must be consulted about.

F: Remember to make sure that all copies of agreements are in writing, signed and have kept copies for your records

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